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Offline LouisianaMojo

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Fig hype on top rated Figs
« on: December 21, 2019, 09:27:42 AM »
Here in southern figs we will not hype up a fig and if you do not want to know the truth don't ask. We believe in giving a fig 3 to 4 years in order to prove itself as a winner as a loser or just another Fig.

And as we look around Reading Post and seeing wish list we see a lot of members that have bought into this hype or are wanting to buy pictures on someone's advertisement.  The I-258 and the black Madera two of the most expensive and hyped up varieties there are what ? I am simply amazed every time I see the I 258 selling for a large sum.

The facts about this variety is it is a old fig and been around for a very very long time it's also a variety that originated out of UC Davis back in the day it was giving out for free that's correct free.

It was reviewed as not being a good variety one of the reasons for this that is known to be a notorious splitter which I witness here every year I'm very lucky to get few figs off this tree.

I've walked out with having a couple days of fog here and it looks like a little house of horror all these triangle wide mouth looking at me. The reason that we have it still is that the lab suggested if we put a little Southern Hospitality in this variety it would be a great fig so yes we're breeding it.

The Black Madeira KK's.  Black Madeira are the same variety very slow growing and low production figs this variety Also originated from UC Davis for free it too is a older fig. We are breeding and improving this variety Also to make it a great fig.

So both of these figs are older figs they originated from UC Davis for free and they're not a great Fig I have many varieties that are a lot better than these.

Buzzone Nero and the LSU Red strain that I have outperform production flavor and being resistance 10 to 1 with these two varieties growing here.

Another variety that looks very promising is the Black Madeira dwarf. A very compact bushy variety looking to be a good producer great for growing in containers for the people up north.

We are looking to give a few of these away and also distribute these for field testing up north to our members.
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Re: Fig hype on top rated Figs
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2019, 10:46:22 AM »
Thatís some great info I donít want to buy into the hype rather have some fast growing and delicious figs. But I definitely have the rooting bug. lol
Wish list. Bronx white AL or Ga ,Smith , any type of LSU- ,jack lily,gold and strawberry ,GOta del Mel,St. Rita,Hunt fig ,Dr. Clark ,actually any fig that will root. Lol
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Re: Fig hype on top rated Figs
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2019, 10:59:03 AM »
Thank you again for the helpful information.  It is easy to get caugt up in the hype and want the big $$ varieties that everyone else is curently after.  Your post on this topic add an important perspective when choosing what I would like to add to my growing collection.
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Re: Fig hype on top rated Figs
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2019, 11:35:15 AM »
Thank you for sharing. I try not to fall for the hype but sometimes I just want to see if I can grow a BMKk or N I258 or some other high end variety.  The fig bug is strong.  It  makes you want more than you can handle
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Re: Fig hype on top rated Figs
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2019, 10:15:14 PM »
Thank you for an honest review of these varieties.  I am just starting my collection and do find it difficult to discern between a hyped up over priced tree and somthing that will truly be worth the effort to grow.  I'm pretty sure the more I learn from this forum and about my own tastes, the more my wish list will change.  My wish list now is currently based on my own ignorance and what I think I might want.  So, thanks again for the information.
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Re: Fig hype on top rated Figs
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2020, 07:46:18 PM »
The cuttings and the trees of this two varieties are very expensive.
Wishlist: Figoin, Socorro Black, CDD Blanc, St. Rita, Black Madeira dwarf, Louisiana Fig Varieties, Louisiana Lightening, Buzzone Nero, LSU Strawberry, BNR, Giant Brown Turkey, Mutant Fig, White Lebanese.

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Re: Fig hype on top rated Figs
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2020, 06:32:53 AM »
JD, you mentioned that the  Black Madeira dwarf is a promising variety.  Are there other dwarf varieties you recommend?

I grow everything in pots - mid May is usually th he earliest I can put my trees out - and dwarf trees would make my back happier.
Wish list: LSU Red extraordinaire, LSU Strawberry, BB10, La Goccia D'Oro, Buzzone Nero, Black Madeira dwarf.

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Re: Fig hype on top rated Figs
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2020, 08:17:38 AM »
This is probably the wrong category for the your post here should be underneath Fig Talk. I am going by all the reports that I read on this variety so far I actually know somebody that's growing this and this is one that I just started here last fall.

There are not that many dwarf varieties of figs at least not proven Dwarfs. But you can prune your trees and train them to be dwarf trees in your containers also get you a dolly and save your back

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Re: Fig hype on top rated Figs
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2020, 11:32:23 AM »
Thanks, JD. I'll  re-read the post on pruning.
Wish list: LSU Red extraordinaire, LSU Strawberry, BB10, La Goccia D'Oro, Buzzone Nero, Black Madeira dwarf.

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Re: Fig hype on top rated Figs
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2020, 03:36:03 PM »
And this is why this forum is so valuable to this newbie - throws a little reality into my visions after watching too many You Tube fig tastings  :). Lets me remember that my actual goal is to collect figs that will grow well and prolifically in my area. Thanks, JD
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Re: Fig hype on top rated Figs
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2020, 04:22:03 PM »
Thanks for the information and reality check.   I am not sure how I found the forum but I have been on figbid for a few days.  I have bid on a few but haven't won any yet.  I had no idea that both of those were UC Davis old varieties.   I guess it does one good to do research first before just bidding based on a seller's description.
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Re: Fig hype on top rated Figs
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2020, 02:09:59 AM »
thanks for your post DJ

I get that some sellers hype up a variety to sell cuttings but when you have many many people (some are just backyard growers who are not trying to sell anything) doing reviews on i258 and black madeira and all reaffirming taste and quality for these figs, it makes me think they are reliable reviews 

i suspect climate plays an important roll in each variety too
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Re: Fig hype on top rated Figs
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2020, 07:35:16 AM »
Kathy thank you for your reply and comments. We base are reviews off facts and we grow all variety for 3 to 4 years this allows the trees to mature so we can give an honest opinion.

We understand and see your point about backyard Growers, but people tend to jump on the bandwagon when it comes down to the hottest new fig or must have. We see it all the time in members wish list and and social media groups. A lot of backyard Growers buy a high end fig to have something to trade.

We grow the black Madeira KK's black Madeira and the drawf Madera all at this point are slow Growers and low production. If there are reviews out there by backyard Growers about how productive this variety is have them show you their Harvest, and show you pictures of the tree and how old it is.

The I 258 Italian is a notorious splitter here in the south no doubts about it I'm lucky to get a few figs off my tree in a year. And I have seen conversations on Facebook about this variety that they paid a couple hundred dollars for and I can't get a fig off here because it splits.

Kathy your results will probably be different because you live in Arizona and a dry climate with no humidity. All our results are from growing here in the south and results will vary in between growing conditions and whether you grow in the ground or in a container I do both to give a very very wide range on result of a variety of fig.

There is always going to be the newest hottest fig every year, most have been just discovered with no background no growing test done, do not know whether it's a common fig variety or not, and show photos that it has been pollinated to add to the confusion.

The WASP is in only in about 10% of the US which means 90% of us doesn't have the wasp so if it has to be pollinated in order to bear fruit we are just out of luck.  We recommend to our members here before pulling their wallet out to Simply run down a check list.
1. Is this a common variety
2. Are these your photos of this fig that you had produced in your growing area.
3. is the photo of this fig been pollinated
4. has this variety produce for you in your growing area. 

By asking these simple questions it will save you a lot of time and frustration. We purchase fruit trees that will be productive for our growing area, one other Factor people need to be aware of is your chilling hours for your growing area, which is a big problem for us having low chilling hours here in the south.

Why would you want a fruit tree that doesn't produce for you? The only thing that we have around here that grows that we can eat is grass.