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Offline LouisianaMojo

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New hype on Violet Sepor & Socorro Black
« on: December 28, 2019, 10:36:21 AM »
 We noticed this morning about the Violet Sepor a merchant who is making claims about the extraordinary flavor that the Violet Sepor had a deep strawberry flavor with notes of grape or plum ?

Also that this variety supposed to be or claims made of being synonymous to Bourjassotte Grise and Socorro Black. We have been growing and eating these varieties for several years and have failed to taste a deep strawberry flavor in either one of these let alone a grape are plum.

This is clearly a selling tactic to get you mindset in buying this because of this extraordinary flavor. We are seeing lots more of extraordinary descriptions of flavor on fig varieties now as selling techniques.

These descriptions first made the seen here early this year fall of the last year on the lorusso varieties with descriptions of banana papaya Etc these are figs not fruit cocktail. These claims are very misleading to luer or entice New Comers or fig enthusiasts to buy their products.

The Violet Sepor and Socorro Black are nowhere even close in comparison to growth habit production and flavor.

We believe anybody making claims like this needs to go get their palate check by a physician. You can find many photos here on the forum to see the difference in between the two varieties.

On a personal note we being in a long growing season versus a short growing season and growing in a container will not change the dimension in flavor as these claims would have you believe.

We also Harvest these figs all the way through the growing season and have yet tasted anyting close as they are describing. So do a little research here I'm going to post some pictures for the differences between these two varieties.
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Re: New hype on Violet Sepor & Socorro Black
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2019, 10:56:35 AM »
As always, thank you for looking out the community.  Too many times, newcomers get caught up in the hype and the "next big thing".
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Re: New hype on Violet Sepor & Socorro Black
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2019, 02:51:17 PM »
Thanks JD, it helps us newbies a lot to have someone knowledgeable to keep us informed. Are these varieties worth growing in south Louisiana?
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Re: New hype on Violet Sepor & Socorro Black
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2019, 03:04:15 PM »
Are we sure the seller didn't mean to say that the Violet Sepor "looks" like a strawberry and the Socorro Black "looks" like a grape or plum?   LOL 

I'm sure the fig mafia just made an honest mistake.   Money had nothing to do with this.   ;D
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Re: New hype on Violet Sepor & Socorro Black
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2019, 04:23:09 PM »
I'm in the process of developing one that tastes exactly like Jim Beam.  I'll then cross it with one I developed that tastes like Lemon-Lime soda.  I'm going to name it the Highball fig.   I'm sure it will be very popular and expensive.  I'm also working on the Yuengling Beer fig. 
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Re: New hype on Violet Sepor & Socorro Black
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2019, 04:35:56 PM »
I'm in the process of developing one that tastes exactly like Jim Beam.  I'll then cross it with one I developed that tastes like Lemon-Lime soda.  I'm going to name it the Highball fig.   I'm sure it will be very popular and expensive.  I'm also working on the Yuengling Beer fig.

Nice , can I be the first to get a cutting..... LOL
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Re: New hype on Violet Sepor & Socorro Black
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2019, 06:12:17 PM »
Thank you for this information; I did consider purchasing this variety based on the advertised description.
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Re: New hype on Violet Sepor & Socorro Black
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2019, 06:32:23 PM »
Whenever I look for a plant, be it a fig or citrus tree, I do thorough research.  Different websites give different descriptions so I weigh what the majority say and go through the pros and cons.  Most fruiting trees take about 3 years to mature enough to produce fruit and that's a lot of time invested and I don't want to make a mistake.  By doing the research, I don't get sucked in by pretty pictures and sales pitch.

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Re: New hype on Violet Sepor & Socorro Black
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2019, 07:32:42 PM »
Whenever I look for a plant, be it a fig or citrus tree, I do thorough research.  Different websites give different descriptions so I weigh what the majority say and go through the pros and cons.  Most fruiting trees take about 3 years to mature enough to produce fruit and that's a lot of time invested and I don't want to make a mistake.  By doing the research, I don't get sucked in by pretty pictures and sales pitch.


I think this is great Rudy but can you give us a little more detail on how you do your research and what kind of sites you visit?

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Re: New hype on Violet Sepor & Socorro Black
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2019, 07:56:08 PM »
Well, with citrus I go to places like UCR: Citrus Variety Collection and Citrus Pages and they go into detail about the history of the variety and various other things like if they are seedless, when fruit is harvested and brix levels.  Then I go to youtube, citrus books, citrus forums, FB and then online nurseries.  I am very picky about what I acquire so I will spend hours trying to decide which variety to get next.  Not only that, citrus trees are not cheap to start with and then you have to add shipping costs.

With figs, I do the same thing as rooted trees are expensive  and the same amount of time is invested (3 years) before you decide if it's a keeper.  I check out youtube, nurseries, fig forums, and FB. Of course Google gets me started. I look for closed eye, fruit size, flavor, resistance to splitting, and if it will do well in the Southern heat just like you do.  I prefer figs that will produce as early as possible.
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Re: New hype on Violet Sepor & Socorro Black
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2020, 10:19:55 PM »
I just saw the other day someone posting on a facebook group that they had found the mother tree for socorro black
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Re: New hype on Violet Sepor & Socorro Black
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2020, 10:59:17 PM »
I just saw the other day someone posting on a facebook group that they had found the mother tree for socorro black
I wonder how that came to be?   Wonder if it was tested...
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Re: New hype on Violet Sepor & Socorro Black
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2020, 02:50:00 AM »
Lyrical descriptions of new, fabulous and rare figs are entertaining - just like convoluted wine talk, but being new to figs, and having found this place, where I can get the "real nitty gritty" is much more valuable.Thanks for this forum.
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Re: New hype on Violet Sepor & Socorro Black
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2020, 01:20:12 AM »
I'm in the process of developing one that tastes exactly like Jim Beam.  I'll then cross it with one I developed that tastes like Lemon-Lime soda.  I'm going to name it the Highball fig.   I'm sure it will be very popular and expensive.  I'm also working on the Yuengling Beer fig.

Too funny!!!  I'm sure you will be MOST successful with this!!
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Re: New hype on Violet Sepor & Socorro Black
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2020, 11:46:07 PM »
That violet sepor be lookin like a snack  :-* :-* :-*
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