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Welcome / Re: Hello from northwest Arkansas
« Last post by tridrama on January 25, 2022, 06:55:38 PM »
Welcome. Sounds like a very enlightening journey you are embarking upon. Can't wait to learn with and from you.
Welcome / Re: Hello from northwest Arkansas
« Last post by FigMamaJanet on January 25, 2022, 01:17:49 PM »
Welcome to SFF Andre!!

You asked a lot of good questions, and by Opiem10 (John's) response, I learned a little more. 

Sounds like you are jumping right in doing your experiments/trials.

Good luck to you and keep in touch.  Keep us up to date on your progress, I am interested :)
Welcome / Re: Hello from northwest Arkansas
« Last post by opiem10 on January 24, 2022, 11:18:38 PM »
Hi Andrea,  thank you for your introduction.  Oh, there is so much information (and pictures/videos)  all around this forum.   Never be shy about asking questions as there are likely many growers in your region who can help you out.

Now, as for your questions:

1) Initials after a variety name indicate the source.   For example, Marseilles Black VS is the strain provided by a grower Vasile Surgeris in Willingboro, New Jersey.   You might also find references such as Baud or Pons.   These are the well known growers in France or Spain respectively, for that specific strain.   Another example I have are two UNKNOWN Italian varieties.   One I label as UNK Italian_ JD and the other as UNK Italian_CR.   The former I received from JD, our administrator of this site and the other I received from my friend Carlos Rivera.   They are very different figs.  Unless a grower does a DNA test of their fig plants, they may not know if any of these varieties with different initials are actually the same genetically.  For example, you will find a lot of discussion on the internet regarding whether Dalmatie, Stella, and White Greek are all the same fig.   Leaves and fruit are very similar.

2) Fig mafia is a reference to the many growers who try to limit the market and sell their product at exorbitant prices.   Members of the fig mafia will often criticize legitimate growers who are not in their inner circle.

3) To extend your season, you can grow your figs in pots.   And if you do so, do the figgy shuffle, bringing them into the sun when the temperatures are well above freezing.   Protect them if cold is forecasted.  I have also heard that rubbing olive oil over the osteole of the fig will also hasten its ripening time.   Just oil the fig before it begins to swell.

4)  The most important data to study is TASTE.   Figs grow and taste differently based on your growing conditions.  Weight and Quantity mean nothing if the fig is dry or tastes like the manure you use to fertilize the tree.   LOL

5)  There is so much reference information throughout this site and on the internet.   The reference book or articles you seek will depend on the questions you are looking to answer.
Welcome / Hello from northwest Arkansas
« Last post by Andrea on January 24, 2022, 10:14:14 PM »
Hi Fig Friends,

Thought I'd finally introduce myself and tell you all how much I've appreciated this website over the past year or two.  The sheer amount of educational material on all things Ficus carica is dizzying.  I barely knew what a fig tasted like when I started reading here.  Now I feel like I know enough to be dangerous to both my landscape and the sunny window spaces in my house. 

Two years ago a friend donated some of her fig cuttings that she'd grown out to our annual plant s ale (master gardeners).  I bought one of every variety she had, not knowing what I was getting into!  Most were just local unknows that she had found around the area, but they grow and produce well here in zone 6b without any coddling.  Then she told me about the fig trial in Fort Smith, so of course we had to go visit it.  As we drove home, we dreamed about starting our own fig study, and now 1 year later, we are!  While the trial in Ft. Smith is studying which varieties survive in Arkansas, we're planning to study which ones produce the best. 

This site has been so helpful in learning about all things fig-related.  I should never have passed biology in 8th grade and have no business leading a fig study.  Yet here I am, still wondering how I got here.

All that is to say, I have questions.  LOTS of questions.  Like, what do the initials mean after some variety names?  (Marseilles Black VS - what's the VS?) Is there really a fig mafia?  How and why do you graft one fig onto another?  What's the best way to begin early and extend the season without a greenhouse so "late" figs' fruit will ripen?  is there any data we should be evaluating figs for in the study besides just weight/quantity?  Are there any fig reference books that I should be looking at?

Thanks to everyone who posts on Southern Figs Forum with your questions, answers, opinions, contests, photos, joys and disappointments.


Fig trees and cuttings / Re: LSU Purple Fig Cuttings Contest
« Last post by First Sergeant on January 24, 2022, 08:31:13 PM »
 Thank you very much AtlantaFig for the LSU Purple cuttings. They came in the mail today and arrived very healthy and in excellent condition.
Fig trees and cuttings / Re: LSU Purple Fig Cuttings Contest
« Last post by THB1961 on January 24, 2022, 11:41:49 AM »
I received the LSU Purple cuttings today! They are nice sized and healthy. Can`t wait to start rooting them.

Thank you Ben
Lets Talk Figs / Re: Pay it forward.
« Last post by opiem10 on January 23, 2022, 08:39:17 PM »
JD,  It looks like a number of members may have sent you cuttings based on the Google document found on the SFF FaceBook site.   Can you send me a message with the varieties you actually did receive?   In that way, I can update the spreadsheet I posted here on the forum. 
Lets Talk Figs / Re: Pay it forward.
« Last post by opiem10 on January 22, 2022, 10:09:46 AM »
JD, If you prefer cuttings, I can send them in place of plants.   I would just have to hope the cuttings are alive as my trees are in deep, Northern dormancy at this time.  Jut let me know your preference.

If you have received cuttings other than those which Ben noted, please message me so that I can update the spreadsheet I put together to help members identify the cuttings/plants you have already received.
Lets Talk Figs / Excel Spreadsheet With Donated Varieties for JD's New Fig Orchards
« Last post by opiem10 on January 22, 2022, 10:06:28 AM »
Hi members,
     I am creating this topic so we all have a list of fig varieties that various members have provided to JD for the resurrection of his fig orchard that was destroyed by the hurricanes of 2020.   Let's see if keeping this list helps organize the types of figs that members give to JD.   

    So we don't have multiple versions of this list, I will attempt to manage updates to the spreadsheet.   Please don't copy and re-post this list as that will make it much more difficult to accurately manage the donations JD has received.   If you have made a donation of cuttings or plants to JD, please message me with the varieties you sent him as well as the quantity.   I ask for quantity so that if JD received one cutting of a variety, a couple more might still be appreciated to ensure he has success.   If however, he already received 3, 4, or 5 of a variety, it may be more helpful if JD received a different variety from your collection.

    Ben's (AtlantaFig) donations are my starting point.   If earlier donations have been made, please message me with the details of those donations.   We can revisit in the coming months if this approach works and make modifications as needed.

Lets Talk Figs / Re: Pay it forward.
« Last post by AtlantaFig on January 21, 2022, 05:51:57 PM »
Hello everyone. Here are the varieties of fig cuttings I send to JD today. This will help us not to send too many of the same variety.

1. Armenian 2 cuttings
2. BB10 1 cutting
3. Black Mission 1 cuttings
4. Giant Amber 3 cuttings
5. Letizia 2 cuttings
6. Red Lebanese 3 cuttings
7. Sweet Joy 2 cuttings
8. Yellow Long Neck 3 cuttings
9. Raspberry Latte 1 cuttings
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