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Lets Talk Figs / Rooting Gel versus No Rooting Gel
« Last post by opiem10 on December 04, 2022, 03:22:42 PM »
I have had really good success getting cuttings to root using the shoebox method.   I have always scraped the bark and coated the scraped area with Clonex gel.  My failures come when I then try to pot the rooted cuttings in mini tree pots.   I have heard a possible cause for these failures might be the use of rooting hormones.   Though the hormones stimulate root growth, I have read that this may also weaken the cutting as it puts forth so much energy so quickly that the cutting is more susceptible to stress and failure when potting in soil media.   

So, to test whether rooting gel helps get cuttings to the point of being able to move outside, I am running a side by side test with 12 Red Lebanese Bekka Valley cuttings using the shoebox method.   There are 6 cuttings in each shoebox.   There are equal numbers of thin and thicker cuttings in each shoebox, and all came from the same mother plant.   Each shoebox is placed in a second shoebox with about an inch of water and then placed on the same heating mat.  The water tends to buffer the heat from the mat and keep the rooting media at a consistent and warm temperature. 

I'll give periodic updates regarding the number of cuttings which root, how long it took, and how well they did when up potted into pots and grown under the same conditions.
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Lets Talk Figs / Re: 2022 Fall Fig Cutting Season Has Begun
« Last post by jtrav on December 03, 2022, 08:31:07 PM »
They have the thermostats that are not integrated with the mat. The thermostat plugs into the wall, the mat plugs into thermostat.
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Lets Talk Figs / Re: 2022 Fall Fig Cutting Season Has Begun
« Last post by opiem10 on December 03, 2022, 05:36:45 PM »
I keep trying for that perfect method of rooting fig cuttings but it remains elusive.   Losing cuttings from my own trees hurts a little, but it would have hurt a lot more if I had purchased them.    I'll be trying more cuttings from my own trees throughout the cold winter months when there is little to do outside.   

I "hope" my purchases of fig cuttings are limited to White Greek from a California grower.  My one year old White Greek ripened a few really large figs this year that were DELICIOUS.
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Lets Talk Figs / Re: 2022 Fall Fig Cutting Season Has Begun
« Last post by AtlantaFig on December 03, 2022, 12:31:42 AM »
John, sorry to hear about your situation with your cuttings. Losing cuttings after rooted is more frustrating. After removing your cuttings from the shoebox and transplant them in the rubbermaid containers, put them under a powerful light so that the humidity will be close to the humidity they have been used to and see the result.
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Lets Talk Figs / Re: 2022 Fall Fig Cutting Season Has Begun
« Last post by tridrama on December 02, 2022, 08:44:22 PM »
John

So sorry to hear your fig pop attempts didn't fare well. I only tried that method once and it didn't work. With the Rubbermaid container, I had trouble keeping the humidity just right. I had a number of cuttings that rooted above soil level. Like you, I'm pretty positive I cooked some roots last year as well. I did get a thermostat but determined I had better results just waiting until spring and starting outdoors.

LeConte'
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Lets Talk Figs / Re: 2022 Fall Fig Cutting Season Has Begun
« Last post by opiem10 on December 02, 2022, 06:42:17 PM »
You can get a heat mat thermostat on amazon for under 20 bucks.
I've had excellent results with a thermostat controlled heat mat under fig pops in a milk crate or other container.

Jake,
    As my seedling mats fail over time, I will definitely be replacing them with thermostat models.   Live and learn. 
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Lets Talk Figs / Re: 2022 Fall Fig Cutting Season Has Begun
« Last post by jtrav on December 02, 2022, 09:44:11 AM »
You can get a heat mat thermostat on amazon for under 20 bucks.
I've had excellent results with a thermostat controlled heat mat under fig pops in a milk crate or other container.   
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Lets Talk Figs / Re: 2022 Fall Fig Cutting Season Has Begun
« Last post by opiem10 on December 02, 2022, 09:26:48 AM »
It looks like my attempts to root using the fig pop method have been less than stellar.   While I got several DaVinci Code, LSU-156, and Burgan UNK to root, the "gentle" bottom heat looks like it cooked a vast majority of the cuttings.   This, despite putting towels between the heating pad and the Rubbermaid tubs.   I guess seedling mats without a thermostat are just too hot.   Back to my tried and true double shoebox method which looks to be working well with about a dozen Vasilika Black cuttings.   The transition from the shoebox, with nearly 100% humidity, to the mini tree pots in the Rubbermaid containers, with much lower humidity, is the challenging step in that process.

I am not sure which is more frustrating, killing the cuttings before they root or losing them after they have rooted and been up potted.
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Lets Talk Figs / Re: Oklahoma Fig Growers' Swap
« Last post by AtlantaFig on November 30, 2022, 12:54:40 PM »
Andrea, you are funny. You don't say NO to free fig cuttings or fig plants especially expensive varieties.
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Lets Talk Figs / Re: Unknowns: Heirloom vs Commercially Distributed Figs
« Last post by AtlantaFig on November 30, 2022, 12:50:16 PM »
Andrea, another thing you can do is to get the DNA of the figs and compare it with the DNA of figs in Fig database and you may find the names of those unknown figs.
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